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#1 'Honour killing' brother jailed
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 1:56 pm
by frigidmagi
BBC
A 19-year-old Turkish man has been jailed for nine years and three months by a German court for shooting his sister in a so-called "honour killing".
Ayhan Surucu had confessed to shooting his sister Hatun Surucu, 23, at a bus stop in a Berlin suburb last year.
Two other brothers were cleared of charges of conspiring to murder her.
Prosecutors said the brothers felt dishonoured by their sister, who lived on her own with her son after leaving a cousin she had been forced to marry.
The death of the 23-year-old shocked Germany and led to street protests by Turkish women.
The Berlin court's presiding judge Michael Degreif said Hatun Surucu was killed "because she lived her life as she saw fit" and had adopted Western ideas of sexual equality, the AFP news agency reports.
Her killer, Ayhan Surucu, had told the court he shot his sister because he disapproved of her lifestyle and her morals, but added that he regretted his actions.
He said she infuriated him by saying that she had the right to live as she pleased and to sleep with whom she wanted.
"It was too much for me. I grabbed the pistol and pulled the trigger," he told the court in September. "I don't even understand what I did anymore."
Protests
Hatun Surucu was the sixth victim of honour killings among Berlin's 200,000-strong Turkish community in as many months. The German police listed 45 cases between 1996 and 2004 - with 13 in Berlin.
She had been married to her cousin eight years before in an arranged marriage, but had then run away - taking her five-year-old son with her.
The killing led to a wide debate in Germany about honour killings.
Muslim leaders in Berlin were at pains to stress that there was no basis for honour killings in the Koran. But they were also criticised for not making a clear condemnation of them
#2
Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 3:03 am
by The Cleric
Wow. That's awesome. Jail a guy for 9 years for murdering his sister in cold blood because she doesn't want to live like a good little muslim
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#3
Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 10:20 am
by Comrade Tortoise
Indeed. Here he would have been (rightly) executed.
#4
Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 10:38 am
by Shark Bait
Comrade Tortoise wrote:Indeed. Here he would have been (rightly) executed.
Shit in Texas he would be in the express lane for exicution.
#5
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 7:34 am
by Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman
This may be just another of my rants, but it seems most Moslems today are more interested in religious extremism instead of using their brain and conscience. Is it much difficult for them to understand that killing is forbidden in Koran?
It seems most Moslems today are getting insane.
#6
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 7:40 am
by Narsil
I do not suport the death penalty myself, as there's far too many accidents with it. I support, however, life imprisonment without parole for truly convicted Murderers, Rapists and equivalent. Death is, in all honesty, too good for them.
#7
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 1:07 pm
by Stofsk
I don't support the death penalty as I think it is cruel and humiliating. I don't support mandatory life sentencing either. That has more to do with the practicalities and realities of the criminal justice system than anything about the particular case. Let me say that I'm jaded over the whole matter and leave it at that.
EDIT: Just so there's no miscommunication: I don't condone, accept or respect the sentence this murderer received, I think he got off lightly and he should be sucking Allah's cock every night to thank him for it, all I'm saying is that I'm not surprised he got a light sentence. You really have to be in my shoes to know why.
#8
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 3:04 pm
by Batman
Welcome to the wonderful world of the german criminal justice system. If you break into somebody's home to loot and the home owner confronts you, shoot him. Chances are you'll get a lighter sentence.
Germany's laws are still largely based on a legal code formulated in the 1860s or so.
While I sort of disagree with the death penalty sometimes (like in this instance) I really really wish we had it.