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#1 Chris Christie vs Rand Paul

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:44 am
by frigidmagi
Yahoo
or the second time in as many weeks, a high-profile Republican has taken aim at Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul for his views on national security practices.

During a panel discussion with Republican governors on Thursday night in Aspen, Colo., New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie said libertarians who criticize the National Security Agency’s domestic spying operation were “dangerous,” because such criticisms inhibit the federal government’s ability to stop terrorism. Christie pointed to Paul as an example.

“This strain of libertarianism that’s going through both parties right now and making big headlines, I think, is a very dangerous thought,” Christie said, prompting the panel moderator to ask if he was referring to Paul.

“You can name any number of people, and he’s one of them. I mean, these esoteric, intellectual debates — I want them to come to New Jersey and sit across from the widows and the orphans and have that conversation. And they won’t, because that’s a much tougher conversation to have.”

In response on Friday, Paul called the spying program “unconstitutional” and accused Christie of misplaced fears.

“Christie worries about the dangers of freedom. I worry about the danger of losing that freedom,” read a post on Paul’s official Twitter account. “Spying without warrants is unconstitutional."

The debate comes just two days after the House rejected an amendment proposed by Michigan Republican Rep. Justin Amash that would have halted the NSA’s domestic surveillance program by withholding funding for the agency. Amash’s measure, which failed by only a few votes, revealed a schism in both parties over U.S. spying practices.

In the Senate, Paul has been one of the most vocal critics of the program, and in March he led a 13-hour filibuster on the floor in protest of John Brennan’s nomination to direct the CIA to draw attention to the use of U.S. drone strikes overseas.

Paul’s actions have received mixed reviews from Republicans. Last week, New York Republican Rep. Peter King went after the Kentucky lawmaker by saying that he did not think Republicans like Paul should represent “the face” of the party.

Paul, in an interview in Des Moines last week, where he was attending a conference for Christian church leaders, told Yahoo News that King’s comments were “exclusionary.”

"We should welcome a lot of people in the party — a big tent — who can disagree,” Paul told Yahoo News. “His may be an exclusionary view of the party. Mine is not.”
Damn you Christie! Stop making me agree with Rand Paul asshole!

#2 Re: Chris Christie vs Rand Paul

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:40 pm
by Josh
I think Paul's got the edge in reach and he's a bit younger, but Christie is pretty solid and I'll bet if he can get inside and work Paul's midsection he can take him.

Then they can both go away.

#3 Re: Chris Christie vs Rand Paul

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:46 pm
by Hotfoot
The Baron Harkonnen is making his play for the larger theater. New Jersey has a long history of ousting Governors very quickly. In fact, after a quick perusal through the history of leadership in our state, in the last century we have had only FIVE Governors ever serve more than one term, and most of those were post-World War 2.

The average term of a New Jersey Governor is less than a full term until you go back around 200 years ago. Christie's good will from the storm is drying up as his opponents are bringing up all the shit he's pulled since he arranged to have the previous governor eliminated came to power after the former Governor was hospitalized after his motorcade recklessly sped down the Parkway at 90+ miles an hour so that he could talk to Don Imus. You know, important stuff.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that the shitbirds we get in office tend to leave quickly, this one just has an exit strategy for a change, but anyone who bought into his bullshit "I'm a nice guy Republican, really" is going to be in for a rude awakening.

I mean fucking hell guys, he's a NEW JERSEY POLITICIAN! There are a bare handful that I can look at and go "Okay, well this one's at least not AS corrupt as the rest". The only reason nobody's ever found bodies attached to this man is that he consumes them whole or feeds them to the Rancor Pit that is Camden.