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#1 Japan unveils 'largest battleship' since World War II

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Japan has unveiled its largest warship since World War II, to be used in anti-submarine warfare and border-area surveillance missions.

The vessel has a flight deck nearly 250m (820ft) long and can reportedly carry more than nine helicopters.

Its unveiling comes amid tensions with China over islands which both countries insist are theirs.

The Philippines is also bolstering its marine defences by buying a second decommissioned US Coast Guard ship.

President Benigno Aquino on Tuesday welcomed the arrival of the vessel in Subic Bay.

He said it would intensify patrols of the Philippines' exclusive economic zone in the South China Sea, where disputed waters have also raised tensions.

Island tension
Correspondents say that the launch of the huge Japanese flat-top destroyer, Izumo, has raised eyebrows in China because it bears a strong resemblance to a conventional aircraft carrier.

Officials say it will be used for national defence and will enhance the Japan's ability to transport personnel and supplies in response to large-scale natural disasters, such as the devastating earthquake and tsunami in 2011.

Although work on Izumo has been ongoing since 2009, its unveiling comes as Japan and China are locked in a dispute over several small islands located between southern Japan and Taiwan.

Vessels from both countries have been conducting patrols around the islands, called the Senkaku in Japan and the Diaoyutai in China.

Tension over the issue, along with China's heavy spending on defence and military modernisation, have heightened calls in Japan for its naval and air forces to be strengthened.

China recently began operating a refurbished Russian aircraft carrier - and is also reportedly moving forward with the construction of another that is domestically built.

Technically the Izumo is a destroyer, but some experts believe the new Japanese ship could potentially be used to launch fighter jets or other aircraft that have the ability to take off vertically.

That would be a departure for Japan, correspondents say, even though it has one of the best-equipped and best-trained naval forces in the Pacific.

Since the end of WWII it has not sought to build aircraft carriers of its own because of constitutional restrictions that limit its military forces to a defensive role.
You know it's stories like this that remind how fucking aggravating the fucking media can be. These idiots call an aircraft carrier a battleship, an M-16 a machine gun and an LAV a tank. They have no idea about the specifics or requirements of war. Yet they constant keep armchair quarterbacking and declaring that we're doing everything the wrong way and we should totally do everything they way they say... Despite their way being an utter clusterfuck that would actually make things worse. Hell I had one editorial claim that US troops should stop patrolling with their flak jackets, as it would build "confidence."

"Confidence"! Fuck you guys, you come down here and do this shit and lets see how often you're out of armor.

Okay that had nothing to do with the above story, just one of my pet peeves.
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#2 Re: Japan unveils 'largest battleship' since World War II

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What does the ship 'technically' being a destroyer even mean? It's labelled a destroyer? Anybody remember the DLGs/DLGNs that miraculously became CGs/CGNs in the US Navy a couple decades ago?
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#3 Re: Japan unveils 'largest battleship' since World War II

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Well it's not like the UK has a long and storied naval tradition or anyth
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I think you owe the readers an 'ing'. But yeah, 'through-deck cruisers' :biggrin:
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Batman wrote:I think you owe the readers an 'ing'. But yeah, 'through-deck cruisers' :biggrin:
That was intentional sarcasm, you s
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#6 Re: Japan unveils 'largest battleship' since World War II

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It was most certainly not and anyway there's like 19 billion different things you could be calling me starting with s.
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#7 Re: Japan unveils 'largest battleship' since World War II

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World Aircraft Carriers.jpg
You can see the new Japanese ship, designated DDH 01, in the bottom middle-right of that chart. They're clearly aircraft carriers by the standards of pretty much everyone but the United States. The US would call them Landing Helicopter Docks, but the only foreign carriers that qualify as real carriers by US standards are the Kutnezov, Varyag, Charles de Gaulle, Vikramaditya, and Sao Paolo, and the latter three are decided small carriers at that. Incidentally, that picture nicely illustrates why the USN can take on the rest of the world's navies combined and be confident of victory. Though, the British are building two "real" aircraft carriers in the form of Queen Elizabeth and Prince of Wales.
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#8 Re: Japan unveils 'largest battleship' since World War II

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Batman wrote:It was most certainly not and anyway there's like 19 billion different things you could be calling me starting with s.
I actually hadn't intended that, the word that got cut there was 'see.'

If insult were my intent, I would embroider it with more colorful profanities. One must respect the proprieties of that most honored art, after all.
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