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#1 Jon Huntsman Criticizes Republican Party, Compares to China

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Jon Huntsman leveled harsh criticism at his party on Sunday evening, BuzzFeed's Zeke Miller reported, comparing the Republican Party to communist China and questioning the strength of this year's presidential field.

During an event at the 92nd Street Y in New York City, Huntsman spoke candidly about his party's flaws, lamenting the Republican National Committee's decision to rescind an invitation to a major fundraising event after Huntsman called for a third-party candidate to enter the race.

"This is what they do in China on party matters if you talk off script," Huntsman said.

Huntsman, a former Utah governor who dropped out of the GOP primary in January, served as U.S. ambassador to China under President Barack Obama.

He also criticized the Republican candidates' foreign policy stances, particularly in regard to China.

"I don’t know what world these people are living in," Huntsman said.

Although Huntsman did not mention any specific candidates, he has criticized Mitt Romney in the past for his "wrong-headed" approach. Huntsman, who endorsed Romney after dropping out of the race, said in February that the former Massachusetts governor should take a more opportunity-minded view to relations with China.

Huntsman also spoke on Sunday about his presidential candidacy, revealing that he was less than impressed by his fellow candidates when he attended his first debate in August.

"Is this the best we could do?" Huntsman said he asked himself.

He also joked that his wife forbade him to pander to the party's far-right contingent ahead of Iowa's caucuses, which likely hurt him with conservative voters in the Hawkeye State.

“She said if you pandered, if you sign any of those damn pledges, I’ll leave you,” Huntsman said. "So I had to say I believe in science -- and people on stage look at you quizzically as though you're ... an oddball."

Huntsman, however, did not actively campaign in Iowa, telling CBS News in December that "they pick corn," not presidents, in that early caucus state.

Since dropping out of the race, Huntsman has remained critical of his former opponents and has remained lukewarm in his backing of Romney.

"Gone are the days when the Republican Party used to put forward big, bold, visionary stuff," Huntsman said during the February interview with MSNBC that got him disinvited from the RNC fundraiser. "I think we're going to have problems politically until we get some sort of third-party movement or some alternative voice out there that can put forward new ideas."

And unlike others in his party who have endorsed Romney, Huntsman has refrained from appearing at campaign events on behalf of his party's likely nominee. According to his daughter, Abby Livingston, he won't be joining Romney on the trail anytime soon.

“My dad is not a surrogate for Romney and will not be out stumping for him in the general,” she told ABC News earlier this month. "He is enjoying private life.”
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Huntsman has burned some bridges here, but frankly I respect him for his willingness to speak out.
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Great that he spoke up, but if he seriously had ambitions to be president he should've focused more on actually getting a coalition together to drive change in the party mechanism. This just comes across as sour grapes.
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Bluntly Josh, you're asking the impossible of him. He's suppose to rally a coalition from men who have no in interest in him, with money he doesn't have, to get a party to follow ideas they've abandoned. You might as well ask him to singly handly found that moon base we all want.

The businessmen have firmly chosen Romney. The fundamentalist had chosen Santorum. The Libertarians have chosen Ron Paul. There is no coalition in the Republican party to be raised by Jon Huntsman.
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...if he was building a moon base single-handedly or otherwise, I'd vote for his ass in a heartbeat.

Seriously though, what was the point of a presidential run then? I mean, yeah, maybe he thought he could get some populism going that would bull-rush him over the party elites, but that's such a fucking million to one longshot that it's not even worth talking about, especially given that he wasn't in sync with the social conservatives that are the portion of the party base that would actually form the core of a populist run.

So, having basically wasted everyone's time and money, rather than try to do anything productive he just sits there and carps about how much the party sucks these days. It's the waste that annoys me- rather than bitching about things, find something to do. And if you can't salvage the wreckage of the party, then go run a fucking charity or something. Do something meaningful.

That's why it got up my nose.
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Seriously though, what was the point of a presidential run then? I mean, yeah, maybe he thought he could get some populism going that would bull-rush him over the party elites, but that's such a fucking million to one longshot that it's not even worth talking about, especially given that he wasn't in sync with the social conservatives that are the portion of the party base that would actually form the core of a populist run.
No. Not populism. He was seeing if there was a motivated "sane" wing of the GOP left that might carry him to the nomination. That is what I think anyway. He knowingly acted as the viability lab rat to see if it was possible for a republican who is sane and thinks science is something other than an evil conspiracy to get anywhere. He got his answer.
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Comrade Tortoise wrote:No. Not populism. He was seeing if there was a motivated "sane" wing of the GOP left that might carry him to the nomination. That is what I think anyway. He knowingly acted as the viability lab rat to see if it was possible for a republican who is sane and thinks science is something other than an evil conspiracy to get anywhere. He got his answer.
I can buy this for every part except the part where somebody sane runs for president in this day and age. :razz:
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Obama and frankly Romney are quite sane. Romney is just willing to pander to insanity and Obama is willing to be part of the machine in order to gain power.
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