Who's your favorite villain?

Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman · Sat Oct 08, 2005 6:16 pm

Believed or not, mine is not Palpatine or Vader, and not even Hannibal Lecter, but Emperor Commodus from the movie Gladiator.

Yes, he's probably the most appaling character ever; he is sadistic, ruthless, childish, and pathetically coward. Unlike Palpatine or Lecter, there's nothing admirable about this guy. He's someone you would spit right on the eye.

But behind all the facade, deep down inside, all he want is being loved.

Failing to obtain the love of his father, he turns to the people. He tried so hard to be loved by the people, and although he was a ruthless bastard who murdered the Senators, there's a chilling impression during the movie that his attempt to please the people is sincere. Love, he just wanted their love.

My second favorite villain is Francis Dolarhyde from Red Dragon; yes, he's a schizophrenic psychopath who suffered from extreme low self-esteem (man, you should read the book. I repeat, the book, not the movie!)

SPOILER WARNING

He was disowned by his mother since birth. He loved his grandmother because she's the only one who's willing to adopt him, but she's also the one who continously berated him to the point of making him went insane.

And the most touching part of Red Dragon is when Dolarhyde found Reba, his true love. It was Reba who gave him the love and appreciation he had been longing for. Dolarhyde actually tried to overcome his insanity for her sake. Alas, he failed. But although the murderous side won, he still managed to formulate a plan to save Reba's life from himself.

Having watched Gladiator and read Red Dragon, I believe anyone raised in a happy family should be thankful for that fact.

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 10:28 pm

My current favorites are Vader, Palpatine and Sauron I believe. The desire for power and the ability to weild it over the lesser beings! [/crazy laughter]

Post by **Dark Silver** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 10:42 pm

favorite villans?
there's been so many..

but, if I must choose...

the Shredder from TNMT (the original TMNT, not the perversion that is the current cartoon or the movies). He was a badass ninja master who had the Technodrome. That right there was badass man.

Baring that, the Joker, he was brillant, if demented.

Bratty · Post by **Bratty** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 10:48 pm

Tim Roth's char (forget the name) in Rob Roy.

Sociopath, and seems almost flippant, childish, and froppish, until it is proven how deadly and diabolical he is. Despite of, and because of, his beauty and form.

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 1:57 am

Al Bester. Favourite villain because he does all manner of things to people to either hurt them, manipulate them, or kill them, but in the end he works towards keeping his people safe. I get the feeling he's really a 'believer' in the Psi Corps, which is what makes him dangerous.

Narsil · Post by **Narsil** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 5:31 am

I'd have to say (in no particular order)...

Hannibal Lector
Darth Sidious
Khan (Star Trek)
Darth Vader
Darth Tyrannus
Kain (Legacy of Kain)
Dr. Evil (Fire the "Laser")

There are several more, but not that I can (be bothered to) mention offhand.

The Morrigan · Post by **The Morrigan** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 8:07 am

I've got a bit of a soft spot for Dr Fu Manchu in The Fiendish Plot of Dr Fu Manchu.

Fu Manchu: Nayland Smith again. That is very good news...
Servant: Why is it good news, master?
Fu Manchu: Because I'm in no condition to receive bad news. I shall fine you each 1000 yen.
Servant: But you don't pay us, master.
Fu Manchu: Then I shall start paying you in order to fine you.

Also, off the top of my head and in no particular order:

Darth Vader (he was so much more fun after he turned homicidal)
Spike from Buffy (he was so much more fun before he turned good)
Gogo from Kill Bill v.1
Amilyn from Buffy the Movie
Barry Lyndon from The Memoirs of Barry Lyndon
Dr Evil

The Cleric · Post by **The Cleric** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 10:37 pm

Lecter. It would be Dr. Evil, but I don't think you can really classify him as a villian. Comedy villians shouldn't really count

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Josh · Post by **Josh** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 11:23 pm

I'll go with Stofsk for Bester, especially after the Psi Corps trilogy, which showed just how poisonously delusional he was.

Gandalf · Post by **Gandalf** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 11:33 pm

Angelus.

He has some damn good moments. Plus he was just plan sadisticaly cool.

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 11:43 pm

Petrosjko wrote:I'll go with Stofsk for Bester, especially after the Psi Corps trilogy, which showed just how poisonously delusional he was.

Ooh! Ahh! Details?

Lindar · Post by **Lindar** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 2:51 am

The Horned King*nods* Black Cauldron.

or maybe even... meh... dunno..... maybe the guy who masterminded most of the "murders" in SAW

Ra · Post by Ra » Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:16 am

In no particualar order...

General Chang (Star Trek VI)

Khan Noonien Singh (Star Trek II)

Kane (Command & Conquer)

Saruman the White (Lord of the Rings)

Palpatine (Star Wars)

Weyoun (DS9)

Baal (Stargate)

Doctor Evil (Austin Powers)

Fat Bastard (Austin Powers)

Hedgecore · Post by **Hedgecore** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 1:26 am

Lindar wrote:The Horned King*nods* Black Cauldron.

I dunno, he was wasn't very well developed in the book, plus he got offed by Gwydion in the first book. In the (mediocre at best) film, he was just kind of a Skeletor knock-off. I found Achren more interesting, but then, given how it ends up, I dunno if she still counts as a villian.

Bill, from Kill Bill: character is extremely well developed, and I like a guy who can go toe to toe with the protagonist, instead of just watching omnipotently from his throne.

Runners up:
Anotsu Kagehisa: Blade of the Immortal you hate him for what he's done, but you find yourself agreeing with his goals, and respecting it on some level...and then, you can't hate him...or can you?
Griffith: Berserk amazing character, just, y'know, power-hungry and evil...and later a demon.
Ra's Al Ghul: Batman/DC Universe
Magneto: X-Men, comics and film
T-1000: Terminator 2
'man':Bambi (those bastards!)

I would add Wile E Coyote, but I tend to think of him as the hero...even though he ends up always losing...poor guy.

Dartzap · Post by **Dartzap** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 2:07 am

Vorbis, from Small Gods.

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 2:10 am

The Operative from Joss Whedon's recent scifi smash hit (hah, grumble) 'Serenity'.

Bratty · Post by **Bratty** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 6:58 am

Gabrielle from Constantine - the path of good intentions..

Invader Zim and GRRR :P - their incompetence amuse me.

The Morrigan · Post by **The Morrigan** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 7:28 am

Bratty wrote:Gabrielle from Constantine - the path of good intentions..

Ooh! I'd forgotten about Gabriel. Satan was kind of cool too, but Gabriel was the best thing about that movie.

Gabriel: I shall smite thee, in his honour.
Satan: [Gabriel attempts to punch Lucifer, but is unable] Looks like someone doesn't have your back any more.

And on the theme of angels gone bad, Islington in Neverwhere was pretty cool too. Oh, and Croup and Vandermer as well.

Lindar · Post by **Lindar** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:19 am

Hedgecore wrote:
Lindar wrote:The Horned King*nods* Black Cauldron.
I dunno, he was wasn't very well developed in the book, plus he got offed by Gwydion in the first book. In the (mediocre at best) film, he was just kind of a Skeletor knock-off. I found Achren more interesting, but then, given how it ends up, I dunno if she still counts as a villian.

Well... he didna say why we liked them... I thought he was scary....but then again...*shrug* what do i know....

Hedgecore · Post by **Hedgecore** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 1:21 pm

Out of curiosity, do you mean the movie or the books?
Coincidentally, I just finished re-reading the entire quintoligy...quinta...all five books, then rented the movie. Those books are still great, even though they're meant for younglings...and are very similar to Lord of the Rings.
*nostalgic tear*

Lindar · Post by **Lindar** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 2:31 pm

Hedgecore wrote:Out of curiosity, do you mean the movie or the books?
Coincidentally, I just finished re-reading the entire quintoligy...quinta...all five books, then rented the movie. Those books are still great, even though they're meant for younglings...and are very similar to Lord of the Rings.
*nostalgic tear*

THe movie... i think i only read one of the bbooks...*shrug* my favorite book villain is Hook...always will be. *and will always have a soft spot for Peter heh*

Caz · Post by **Caz** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 10:53 pm

DR. CLAW.

Because he really will GET GADGET NEXT TIME.

Hedgecore · Post by **Hedgecore** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 10:59 pm

Caz wrote:DR. CLAW.

Because he really will GET GADGET NEXT TIME.

except...well this. I mean seriously, that's what he looks like?
(some of you may have seen this already, a fella on the UD forum posted it a while back)

Man, I nitpick everybody's contribution. I am such a bastard.

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