Google Search Data Makes RIAA's Censorship Efforts Look Dumb

S&L: Discussion of matters pertaining to theoretical and applied sciences, and logical thought.

Moderator: Charon

Post Reply
User avatar
rhoenix
The Artist formerly known as Rhoenix
Posts: 7998
Joined: Fri Dec 22, 2006 4:01 pm
17
Location: "Here," for varying values of "here."
Contact:

#1 Google Search Data Makes RIAA's Censorship Efforts Look Dumb

Post by rhoenix »

gizmodo.com wrote:By its own account, the RIAA will submit 30 million link takedown requests to Google this week. Google will ultimately comply with most of them, but the RIAA wants more. Now Google's fighting back against censorship with data.

Google has been at odds with the recording industry's mouthpiece for some time over links to illegal music downloads in search results. In a new report, "How Google Fights Piracy" Google painstakingly outlines its policies as well as some hard data.

It's hard to argue that Google's not trying: Right now it can process about 4 million requests a week, and complies with nearly every single one in an average of six hours. Google offers many legitimate avenues for users to legally purchase music, and even developed YouTube's Content ID specifically to leverage infringing content to the benefit of the rights holders.

The RIAA responded by basically saying that Google's efforts are useless.
Certainly, Google has amassed an impressive array of data in its report. And there’s a lot to applaud, and we are grateful for the steps they’ve taken. But ultimately, the appropriate benchmarks are metrics that demonstrate that piracy has been reduced. As much as Google may be doing, Benjamin Franklin cautioned that we must ‘never confuse motion for action.’ At least in the case of search results, for all of the motion being generated by both Google and the RIAA — our search removal requests will hit 30 million this week — it is increasingly clear we are making insufficient progress against piracy.
That's a baffling response, even if it's unsurprising. Takedown requests on their own aren't working, and yet, the RIAA continues to accelerate its efforts to send them.

What's more, the response ignores the fact that the report basically says that piracy isn't Google's problem. It points to data showing that search isn't driving piracy: All of the major search engines combined account for only 16-percent of the Pirate Bay's traffic. Nevermind that it's impossible to eradicate infringing content from an Internet full of 60 trillion links altogether in the first place. Get rid of one batch of links and another will crop up.

So it's unclear what "Action" the RIAA is asking for. The implication, and the RIAA is very careful to dance around this type of action, is some kind of preemptive censorship. Google addresses this solution head-on: Look at how few "piracy-related" queries pop up in search for these popular artists.

The problem with censorship is obvious: It's a bad word. It's speech silenced. Takedowns and other measures are already used this way, and Google is understandably resistant to it. It's certainly not the solution the piracy, and even if it was, it wouldn't be worth it.
This is interesting to watch unfold now.
"Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self-esteem, make sure that you are not, in fact, just surrounded by assholes."

- William Gibson


Josh wrote:What? There's nothing weird about having a pet housefly. He smuggles cigarettes for me.
User avatar
Josh
Resident of the Kingdom of Eternal Cockjobbery
Posts: 8114
Joined: Mon Jun 06, 2005 4:51 pm
19
Location: Kingdom of Eternal Cockjobbery

#2 Re: Google Search Data Makes RIAA's Censorship Efforts Look

Post by Josh »

RIAA: still bailing the ocean with a teaspoon after all these years.
When the Frog God smiles, arm yourself.
"'Flammable' and 'inflammable' have the same meaning! This language is insane!"
GIVE ME COFFEE AND I WILL ALLOW YOU TO LIVE!- Frigid
"Ork 'as no automatic code o' survival. 'is partic'lar distinction from all udda livin' gits is tha necessity ta act inna face o' alternatives by means o' dakka."
I created the sound of madness, wrote the book on pain
Norseman
Disciple
Posts: 623
Joined: Sat Dec 03, 2005 6:50 am
18
Contact:

#3 Re: Google Search Data Makes RIAA's Censorship Efforts Look

Post by Norseman »

You know one wonderful way to cut down on piracy is what Steam demonstrated: Make the product easily available in a safe digital form! That'd boost sales and get rid of 90% of piracy.
User avatar
Josh
Resident of the Kingdom of Eternal Cockjobbery
Posts: 8114
Joined: Mon Jun 06, 2005 4:51 pm
19
Location: Kingdom of Eternal Cockjobbery

#4 Re: Google Search Data Makes RIAA's Censorship Efforts Look

Post by Josh »

Well technically most music is available for cheap download via Itunes or Amazon. The problem here is market expectations- people are accustomed to getting music for 'free' on the radio or now via Youtube (where I get most of mine, as it happens) and so pricing for distribution is kind of a losing game. This hurts the industry side of the business the most, because artists have rarely profited on album distribution anyway. That's why RIAA is upset, not on behalf of the artists.
When the Frog God smiles, arm yourself.
"'Flammable' and 'inflammable' have the same meaning! This language is insane!"
GIVE ME COFFEE AND I WILL ALLOW YOU TO LIVE!- Frigid
"Ork 'as no automatic code o' survival. 'is partic'lar distinction from all udda livin' gits is tha necessity ta act inna face o' alternatives by means o' dakka."
I created the sound of madness, wrote the book on pain
Post Reply