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- Dark Silver
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#1826
I'm hardly delusional.
Neither have been established as being fact in game.
He's done a lot in his past, but he's never been a out and out villian - at worst, he was a anti-hero. Infact, he even pleaded guilty at his criminal trial for a act he commited while mentally fucked BECAUSE he felt that he couldn't with a good concious plead any other way - because he murdered a a ass load of innocent, defenseless people.
<edit>And yes, he was not in his right mind when that happened, incase you forget, the man was being psychologically tortured by a Mutant who specialized in doing exactly that, and his mind broke. He wasn't just being Saibot, despite whatever you may want to say about it.</edit>
He did it without expecting anything but to be sent to jail, for the rest of his natural life. Which he got. It's not his fault he got broken out of the shuttle.
Now if you want to use OOC information about what will eventually happen in the future, and say it's a stated fact ingame, then goto hell. But the matter is, he's not a villian yet, though his morales are starting to falter slightly.
Neither have been established as being fact in game.
He's done a lot in his past, but he's never been a out and out villian - at worst, he was a anti-hero. Infact, he even pleaded guilty at his criminal trial for a act he commited while mentally fucked BECAUSE he felt that he couldn't with a good concious plead any other way - because he murdered a a ass load of innocent, defenseless people.
<edit>And yes, he was not in his right mind when that happened, incase you forget, the man was being psychologically tortured by a Mutant who specialized in doing exactly that, and his mind broke. He wasn't just being Saibot, despite whatever you may want to say about it.</edit>
He did it without expecting anything but to be sent to jail, for the rest of his natural life. Which he got. It's not his fault he got broken out of the shuttle.
Now if you want to use OOC information about what will eventually happen in the future, and say it's a stated fact ingame, then goto hell. But the matter is, he's not a villian yet, though his morales are starting to falter slightly.
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#1827
1) He's a murderous bigot.
2) He's been involved multiple murders. You murdered a fucking petty thief and mutilated his body for Christ's sake.
3) He's a thief.
He's a villain.
2) He's been involved multiple murders. You murdered a fucking petty thief and mutilated his body for Christ's sake.
3) He's a thief.
He's a villain.
It's not that I'm unforgiving, it's that most of the people who wrong me are unrepentant assholes.
#1828
I disagree.
Granted, I was not taking part in the game when it started but from what I have seen and read in the IC game thread Saibot is a villain at this point as far as I am concerned. Maybe at the beginning he could have been considered an "anti-hero" with his anti-meta sentiments and all that but he clearly hit a downward spiral since those days.
I am aware of the mitigating circumstances involved with the psychological duress that he endured, but somehow I imagine that all that did was bring out to the fore what was already in Saibot's mind. As for the pleading guilty at the criminal trial, that has no weight at all. Why? Because he did not have the balls or conviction to stick with it. The nanosecond that an opportunity presented itself for him to save his ass, he took it and never looked back. If he had looked at the escape attempt and had said something like:
"fuck you, I did not ask you to break me out of this shuttle. I am prepared to serve my time for the things that I have done."
My respect for his conviction would have been significant. Instead, he shacks up with another meta hater, and they go around looking for metas to kill because they are a clear and present danger to the human population? (why don't kyosuke and saibot give suicide a chance?)
Sorry DS, this is not the O`Reilly spin zone. Its going to take a jedi mind trick of epic proportions to convince me that Saibot is anything but a villain whose very molecules should be scattered over the world. Now, this is OOC information for Tachyon of course. However, since he is sleeping with Argent and has grown rather fond of her, don't expect hugs when he meets Saibot.
Granted, I was not taking part in the game when it started but from what I have seen and read in the IC game thread Saibot is a villain at this point as far as I am concerned. Maybe at the beginning he could have been considered an "anti-hero" with his anti-meta sentiments and all that but he clearly hit a downward spiral since those days.
I am aware of the mitigating circumstances involved with the psychological duress that he endured, but somehow I imagine that all that did was bring out to the fore what was already in Saibot's mind. As for the pleading guilty at the criminal trial, that has no weight at all. Why? Because he did not have the balls or conviction to stick with it. The nanosecond that an opportunity presented itself for him to save his ass, he took it and never looked back. If he had looked at the escape attempt and had said something like:
"fuck you, I did not ask you to break me out of this shuttle. I am prepared to serve my time for the things that I have done."
My respect for his conviction would have been significant. Instead, he shacks up with another meta hater, and they go around looking for metas to kill because they are a clear and present danger to the human population? (why don't kyosuke and saibot give suicide a chance?)
Sorry DS, this is not the O`Reilly spin zone. Its going to take a jedi mind trick of epic proportions to convince me that Saibot is anything but a villain whose very molecules should be scattered over the world. Now, this is OOC information for Tachyon of course. However, since he is sleeping with Argent and has grown rather fond of her, don't expect hugs when he meets Saibot.
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Marcao wrote:
Sorry DS, this is not the O`Reilly spin zone. Its going to take a jedi mind trick of epic proportions to convince me that Saibot is anything but a villain whose very molecules should be scattered over the world. Now, this is OOC information for Tachyon of course. However, since he is sleeping with Argent and has grown rather fond of her, don't expect hugs when he meets Saibot.
I see some smoking meat in the corn-oh wait, that's Dark Silver. Never mind.
It's not that I'm unforgiving, it's that most of the people who wrong me are unrepentant assholes.
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That was a flame almost worthy of Nitram...Cynical Cat wrote:Marcao wrote:
Sorry DS, this is not the O`Reilly spin zone. Its going to take a jedi mind trick of epic proportions to convince me that Saibot is anything but a villain whose very molecules should be scattered over the world. Now, this is OOC information for Tachyon of course. However, since he is sleeping with Argent and has grown rather fond of her, don't expect hugs when he meets Saibot.
I see some smoking meat in the corn-oh wait, that's Dark Silver. Never mind.
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As I was gently reminded, Hotfoot & B4UTRUST are waiting on me to post.
I'll do so later today.
I'll do so later today.
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How far up the behind did that boot go?rhoenix wrote:As I was gently reminded, Hotfoot & B4UTRUST are waiting on me to post.
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#1833
For those of you who don't recognize the significance of the date, it's when Blackheart killed the "real" Saibot while we were all in hell.
Session Start (HotfootB5:DarekSilver001): Sun Dec 23 14:04:51 2007
[14:05] HotfootB5: Aaaaand he is OUTTA HERE! :D
[14:05] *** Auto-response from DarekSilver001: Idle since 12:54PM.
[14:13] DarekSilver001: mmmm?
[14:13] DarekSilver001: the funny thing is
[14:13] DarekSilver001: it didn't matter if you killed this one or not
[14:14] HotfootB5: The funny thing is, I don't really care.
[14:14] DarekSilver001: -shrugs-
[14:14] HotfootB5: Saibot, in whatever form, is on my OOC "Kill on sight" list.
[14:14] DarekSilver001: for what reason?
[14:15] HotfootB5: He's a psychotic racist loose cannon, to start.
[14:16] HotfootB5: Throw in all the clones, copied rings, moonbases, etc. and so forth, it just screams "DO NOT TRUST".
[14:17] HotfootB5: At this point, Saibot has just become the attorney drones to our Tagon's Toughs :P
Session Start (HotfootB5:DarekSilver001): Sun Dec 23 14:04:51 2007
[14:05] HotfootB5: Aaaaand he is OUTTA HERE! :D
[14:05] *** Auto-response from DarekSilver001: Idle since 12:54PM.
[14:13] DarekSilver001: mmmm?
[14:13] DarekSilver001: the funny thing is
[14:13] DarekSilver001: it didn't matter if you killed this one or not
[14:14] HotfootB5: The funny thing is, I don't really care.
[14:14] DarekSilver001: -shrugs-
[14:14] HotfootB5: Saibot, in whatever form, is on my OOC "Kill on sight" list.
[14:14] DarekSilver001: for what reason?
[14:15] HotfootB5: He's a psychotic racist loose cannon, to start.
[14:16] HotfootB5: Throw in all the clones, copied rings, moonbases, etc. and so forth, it just screams "DO NOT TRUST".
[14:17] HotfootB5: At this point, Saibot has just become the attorney drones to our Tagon's Toughs :P
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#1834
Having caught up a little(Eyes are out of comission mostly), Saibot is now a would-be Xenocide, claiming the power to Judge and Pass Sentence at will. Gravitas will have some things to say in his special voice about that.
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#1835
And your silly little point there Hotfoot?
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"Then again, Detective....how often have you dreamed of hearing your father's voice once more? Of feeling your mother's touch?" - Ra's Al Ghul
"According to the Bible, IHVH created the Universe in six days....he obviously didn't know what he was doing." - Darek Steele bani Order of Hermes.
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"Then again, Detective....how often have you dreamed of hearing your father's voice once more? Of feeling your mother's touch?" - Ra's Al Ghul
"According to the Bible, IHVH created the Universe in six days....he obviously didn't know what he was doing." - Darek Steele bani Order of Hermes.
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#1836
Someone is denser than depleted uranium.Dark Silver wrote:And your silly little point there Hotfoot?
Saibot's a villain.
Has been since before his latest killing spree.
It's not that I'm unforgiving, it's that most of the people who wrong me are unrepentant assholes.
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#1837
Ok... I'm at work, I'm bored outta my head, and I let my mind start wandering as I surf the net.
And my mind brings up the fact Blackheart doesn't want to be called David anymore.
Well, ok... that's fine... but what if we're trying to be discrete? We can't just call him 'Blackheart' when we're trying to play civilians, right?
So, if he doesn't like David, we need a new name for him, and my mind starts rambling off to find a new one.
Black: Ebon, Noir, Sable ...
Gee... aren't those girl's names?
Heart: uh... Hart. Stag? Buck? Too Redneck
Heart: ... uh....
What's 'heart' in another language?
Coeur?
COREY!!!!!
Thus, we should all start calling Blackheart 'Corey'.
And my mind brings up the fact Blackheart doesn't want to be called David anymore.
Well, ok... that's fine... but what if we're trying to be discrete? We can't just call him 'Blackheart' when we're trying to play civilians, right?
So, if he doesn't like David, we need a new name for him, and my mind starts rambling off to find a new one.
Black: Ebon, Noir, Sable ...
Gee... aren't those girl's names?
Heart: uh... Hart. Stag? Buck? Too Redneck
Heart: ... uh....
What's 'heart' in another language?
Coeur?
COREY!!!!!
Thus, we should all start calling Blackheart 'Corey'.
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#1838
Does he wear his sunglasses at night?LadyTevar wrote:Ok... I'm at work, I'm bored outta my head, and I let my mind start wandering as I surf the net.
And my mind brings up the fact Blackheart doesn't want to be called David anymore.
Well, ok... that's fine... but what if we're trying to be discrete? We can't just call him 'Blackheart' when we're trying to play civilians, right?
So, if he doesn't like David, we need a new name for him, and my mind starts rambling off to find a new one.
Black: Ebon, Noir, Sable ...
Gee... aren't those girl's names?
Heart: uh... Hart. Stag? Buck? Too Redneck
Heart: ... uh....
What's 'heart' in another language?
Coeur?
COREY!!!!!
Thus, we should all start calling Blackheart 'Corey'.
Gaze upon my works, ye mighty, and despair...
Havoc: "So basically if you side against him, he summons Cthulu."
Hotfoot: "Yes, which is reasonable."
Havoc: "So basically if you side against him, he summons Cthulu."
Hotfoot: "Yes, which is reasonable."
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#1841
Since I've held up posting before (recently, in fact) and not realized it, I must ask - who're we waiting on for the Fun On The Roof scene to move forward?
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Awesome.Hotfoot wrote:both players have posted, that leaves the gm
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#1844
So have you responsed to my little signal of get the hell over here so we can leave or what?
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#1846
Waiting for him to do what? I just fired two blasts into the air as the established code for get over here. That's what they're suppose to be reacting to. B4 isn't even sure what they want him to post.
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Then they should wrap up the last of the cyborgs and between the two of them figure out how/why Luminos would come with Hotfoot.
Argent would take him to the EMTs on the parameter and leave him for treatment. It would have to be something special for me to bring him along, like I did Hydro. But on the rooftop is him, 3 ladies, and Hotfoot... What does he want Hotfoot to do?
Argent would take him to the EMTs on the parameter and leave him for treatment. It would have to be something special for me to bring him along, like I did Hydro. But on the rooftop is him, 3 ladies, and Hotfoot... What does he want Hotfoot to do?
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#1848
No, they should haul ass to where I blasted. There are plenty of agents and troops to take care of the Cyber army now that Nitram and I have destroyed their power source. It to bug out. As for taking Dr. Light over there with us, that's up to Hotfoot, if he shows up and says he's coming with neither Gravy or Blasty are in any condition for long arguments on the matter.
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*chuckle*frigidmagi wrote:Dr. Light
At this point, I'm not sure how much further its supposed to go. I've been waiting for B4 to speak up, and hopefully say "lol thx to Blast all cyborgs are contemplating their belly buttons" so Hotfoot and Luminos can do the dramatic heroic talk without lasers, sleep darts, flamethrowers, grenades, and railgun sabots flying around their ears.Hotfoot wrote:I'm in the middle of a fight, we're waiting for that to get resolved. Unless B4 tells me I can auto these cyborgs, I'm not going to, because that sort of thing is normally up to the GM, not me.
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