Brain Dominance

Ali Sama · Post by **Ali Sama** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 9:01 pm

For years we have been told that we are either right brain dominant or left brain dominant. What about the one's who are not? There are mixed dominant people and balanced people. Our educational system is barely accommodating the right brain dominant people. What about the rest? Each have their own unique set of problems and learning methodology. They approach problems differently and tend to get into disagreements.

Do you think that we should change the approach to people who arn't what you would call the left brained individual?
Ali
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_brain
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_brain
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain
http://www.katherinebell.com/HS%20Mixed%20Dominance.htm
http://members.shaw.ca/hidden-talents/b ... lance.html

The Cleric · Post by **The Cleric** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:34 pm

No. Modern society is by and large left brain dominant. Creativity isn't required for most jobs out there, especially those that are going to most of the high-school degree holding employees.

Ali Sama · Post by **Ali Sama** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:43 pm

The Cleric wrote:No. Modern society is by and large left brain dominant. Creativity isn't required for most jobs out there, especially those that are going to most of the high-school degree holding employees.

yeah. it sucks. others are forced to comply and cannot succeed as well.

Comrade Tortoise · Post by **Comrade Tortoise** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 11:52 pm

Ali Sama wrote:
The Cleric wrote:No. Modern society is by and large left brain dominant. Creativity isn't required for most jobs out there, especially those that are going to most of the high-school degree holding employees.
yeah. it sucks. others are forced to comply and cannot succeed as well.

They wouldnt be able to succeed anyway. They are called artists, ad you will note that they never amount to anything for a reason

It is because even if they are really really good, their work has no market value until they die

Ali Sama · Post by **Ali Sama** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 11:54 pm

Comrade Tortoise wrote:
Ali Sama wrote:
The Cleric wrote:No. Modern society is by and large left brain dominant. Creativity isn't required for most jobs out there, especially those that are going to most of the high-school degree holding employees.
yeah. it sucks. others are forced to comply and cannot succeed as well.
They wouldnt be able to succeed anyway. They are called artists, ad you will note that they never amount to anything for a reason It is because even if they are really really good, their work has no market value until they die

Depends. I don't have a brain dominance. I am good at math, music, etc. i can use my left hand almpst as well as my right. my left eye is dominant. where do I fit in?

Comrade Tortoise · Post by **Comrade Tortoise** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 10:40 am

You have the luxury of choosing, I suppose. Left handedness or ambidexterity is not a disadvantage.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 2:56 pm

I've never encountered a peer-reviewed paper discussing the existance of 'non-dominance', so I am skeptical in the extreme as to their existance. Most cases of non-dominance I have read about have been self-diagnoses, which are about as accurate as tarot cards. The pattern that leaps out to explain this when studied, of course, is recignition that dominance is not an on/off switch, but a sliding scale. Some individuals may simply be more balanced, but again, I've never seen anything reliable yet to show that non-dominance exists.

Comrade Tortoise · Post by **Comrade Tortoise** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 3:08 pm

I would point out that Wikipedia and your other sources are... um... not reliable.

As Nitram said though, much of neuropsych is a sliding scale. Everything from brain "balance" to sexuality, to what tastes you consider palatable is all on a sliding scale, some with different statistial distributions to be sure, but still a sliding scale.

Take me for example, I have very little in the way of artistic talent, and am very very uncoordinated. But I can pick up patterns very well, and I excel at applied math, and the sciences.

I am heavily right dominant, save for my eyes, but that is due to severe myopia.

Others, vary on the scale, I have a friend who is the exact opposite, and another who is exactly in the middle. And I know other people who are variations of the three.

Ali Sama · Post by **Ali Sama** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 2:30 pm

SirNitram wrote:I've never encountered a peer-reviewed paper discussing the existance of 'non-dominance', so I am skeptical in the extreme as to their existance. Most cases of non-dominance I have read about have been self-diagnoses, which are about as accurate as tarot cards. The pattern that leaps out to explain this when studied, of course, is recignition that dominance is not an on/off switch, but a sliding scale. Some individuals may simply be more balanced, but again, I've never seen anything reliable yet to show that non-dominance exists.

i actually got some info from my doctor. I'll ask about this next session

Ali Sama · Post by **Ali Sama** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 2:34 pm

Comrade Tortoise wrote:I would point out that Wikipedia and your other sources are... um... not reliable.

As Nitram said though, much of neuropsych is a sliding scale. Everything from brain "balance" to sexuality, to what tastes you consider palatable is all on a sliding scale, some with different statistial distributions to be sure, but still a sliding scale.

Take me for example, I have very little in the way of artistic talent, and am very very uncoordinated. But I can pick up patterns very well, and I excel at applied math, and the sciences.

I am heavily right dominant, save for my eyes, but that is due to severe myopia.

Others, vary on the scale, I have a friend who is the exact opposite, and another who is exactly in the middle. And I know other people who are variations of the three.

I am similar, though i am good at the arts. esp at music. my coordination has improved alot during the years.

The Silence and I · Post by **The Silence and I** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 9:06 pm

I think it would be great if we could change methodology; I am strong in the maths, sciences, logic etc, but I am also very strong in visual comprehension (I do patterns less well, but can navigate 3D space well, and can picture and manipulate 3D objects mentally with little effort. I also can superimpose mental images over what I see easily), I am artistic, and tend to remember visually.

I hate school. I hate, hate, hate it. I can do the math, I can comprehend the science, I have enough memory to do the history, I have a natural feel for english that lets me slide through english classes. But I still struggled in high school--not against the material, but against my hard to describe disinterest. Heh, extrapolate that through to college and you get where I am now: in between majors, trying to stay interested enough in physics to continue to do the homework.

So what's the problem? I think it is largely due to the way material is presented. I prefer being shown things rather than being told, but either way works (thanks to the duality I can access). However, it is very important that the teacher make the material interesting. If it doesn't strike me as being more worth my time than sleeping all day is then I won't put energy into it. End of story. I am not motivated by the logic of long term goals--i.e. get through the classes, get the degree, make money, pay off debts, become well established, and then do and take what you want to take, do what you want to do. That sounds great, but won't motivated me to get out of bed in the morning, let alone to do boring homework.

It worse for those without the same math and logic skills I have, they don't just prefer the 'show me, then let me try' method, they don't necessarily know what to do at all with the 'tell' method. They probably have the same problems with long term motivation when there isn't some passion to drive them (and who has those in k-12?). My little sister is a great example; she is extremely emotionally and visually driven. Math and logic and science are foreign concepts to her. She tries in school, and is smart enough to do any subject if she tries hard enough, but comes home and is frustrated because she cannot understand what her teachers said, what they expect of her, etc. She cannot understand the 'tell' method. Don't believe me? Just try giving her some intructions--for, say, copying music to her I-Pod--and watch as she gets lost and confused. Show her instead, and she does much better.

These kinds of people will never be engineers, but they are capable of more than painting pictures; unfortunately they don't mesh well with the current methods of instruction. And I tend to think I have it bad because I prefer what they often need

Definately should offer more than one methodology if and when we are able to on a public scale.

Ali Sama · Post by **Ali Sama** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 10:33 pm

ah. actually. I am a mixture of both. I don't need to be told every detail. If I can undrestand the entire picture then ic an sort the detaisl out myself. School is evil btw. Onething that annoyed me dureing class is is when i can hear the taps of the pencisl across th eroom. Even the scratchs the ewriting utensils made as people made notes. One thing people need to know is not everything followes logic and not all solutions are logical. Otherwise, logic is a great tool

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