Dark Ages Vampire

LadyTevar · Post by **LadyTevar** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:14 pm

I think the post got away from me there...

Comrade Tortoise · Post by **Comrade Tortoise** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:25 am

So, let's hear the lot of you... should I start with torture?

Cynical Cat · Post by **Cynical Cat** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:53 am

Example gratia: Why one point of Animalism rocks.

Cynical Cat · Post by **Cynical Cat** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:00 am

Comrade Tortoise wrote:So, let's hear the lot of you... should I start with torture?

Who would you be torturing and why? If you're doing it just to show off that your character's a sick fuck, then definitely not.

Comrade Tortoise · Post by **Comrade Tortoise** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:25 am

Cynical Cat wrote:
Comrade Tortoise wrote:So, let's hear the lot of you... should I start with torture?
Who would you be torturing and why? If you're doing it just to show off that your character's a sick fuck, then definitely not.

It is what he does. Path of Night, he saves people's souls via contrition.

Cynical Cat · Post by **Cynical Cat** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:46 pm

The afterganger joins us. It occurs to me that I'm the one with the best chance of surviving a holmgang with him.,

LadyTevar · Post by **LadyTevar** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:50 pm

Most likely... although I might be able to overpower him with Presence.

Cynical Cat · Post by **Cynical Cat** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:56 pm

LadyTevar wrote:Most likely... although I might be able to overpower him with Presence.

I didn't say a confrontation, I said a holmgang. It's a very specific type of Norse duel. The rules do not favor those who lack war gear, Potence, and Fortitude.

LadyTevar · Post by **LadyTevar** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:58 pm

I got a little sword knowledge, I've got a little Potence.

The Fortitude I lack.

Cynical Cat · Post by **Cynical Cat** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:01 pm

LadyTevar wrote:I got a little sword knowledge, I've got a little Potence.

The Fortitude I lack.

Also the shield and the mail shirt. Holmgang is ridiculously macho (and thus utterly Norse) with the opponents literally exchanging blows one after another and dodging forbidden.

LadyTevar · Post by **LadyTevar** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:02 pm

Cynical Cat wrote:
LadyTevar wrote:I got a little sword knowledge, I've got a little Potence.

The Fortitude I lack.
Also the shield and the mail shirt. Holmgang is ridiculously macho (and thus utterly Norse) with the opponents literally exchanging blows one after another and dodging forbidden.

*sudden flashback to 13th Warrior*
Am I allowed a champion? I pick you.

Cynical Cat · Post by **Cynical Cat** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:09 pm

The 13th Warrior bit wasn't a holmgang, but there was a significant resemblance. In some versions of a holmgang, each fighter has a shield dude whose job it is to take the blow. The word for single combat where two people just go at is einvigi.

LadyTevar · Post by **LadyTevar** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:11 pm

Either way, you are correct. This is not something I would do myself.

Especially with a Low Clan.

Charon · Post by **Charon** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:15 pm

An amusing anecdote from the "Wolves of the Sea" book, which goes over Norse vikings. For the flaw "Outspoken Pagan/Christian". "Note that Outspoken Christians are still outspoken Norse Christians. You are expected to holmgang for Jesus if you believe in him so much. Don't laugh, it happened in the real world."

Cynical Cat · Post by **Cynical Cat** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:18 pm

I like the Vengeful Family merit. Wolves of the Sea is one of the best source books they've ever written, in terms of accuracy to the base material.

LadyTevar · Post by **LadyTevar** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:20 pm

Charon wrote:An amusing anecdote from the "Wolves of the Sea" book, which goes over Norse vikings. For the flaw "Outspoken Pagan/Christian". "Note that Outspoken Christians are still outspoken Norse Christians. You are expected to holmgang for Jesus if you believe in him so much. Don't laugh, it happened in the real world."

This is also why many Norse crucifix were suspiciously similar to a ThorsHammer.

In SCA, I've seen one that was made to be worn either/or. You simply turn it upside down

LadyTevar · Post by **LadyTevar** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:25 pm

Charon, if anyone's stupid enough to attack her on the street in the middle of the night, they deserve what they get.

Athough I do wonder if I could entrance one to follow me and present him as a gift of refreshments for the Court....

Charon · Post by **Charon** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:27 pm

LadyTevar wrote:Charon, if anyone's stupid enough to attack her on the street in the middle of the night, they deserve what they get.

Athough I do wonder if I could entrance one to follow me and present him as a gift of refreshments for the Court....

Of course. But I will point out that it would not be a good gift to give. Feeding at court is considered rude, and to offer sustenance to the Prince might be suggesting that she is not up to the task of getting the food herself.

Charon · Post by **Charon** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:28 pm

A minor note for those of you with retainers/servants. Don't forget that they do have names, so name them. Doesn't need to be fancy, first names would likely do in most cases.

LadyTevar · Post by **LadyTevar** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 4:38 pm

Charon wrote:
LadyTevar wrote:Charon, if anyone's stupid enough to attack her on the street in the middle of the night, they deserve what they get.

Athough I do wonder if I could entrance one to follow me and present him as a gift of refreshments for the Court....
Of course. But I will point out that it would not be a good gift to give. Feeding at court is considered rude, and to offer sustenance to the Prince might be suggesting that she is not up to the task of getting the food herself.

See, this is why I suggest it here first, as I'm not up on what's kosher in the Dark Ages.

Cynical Cat · Post by **Cynical Cat** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 4:56 pm

Customs differ by locality. Tzimisce, for example, do things differently.

LadyTevar · Post by **LadyTevar** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:13 pm

Retainer: Marcus Gregori, a ghoul who acts as her butler/major-domo for her house.
Herd: eight servents (3 maids: Viviane, Alicia, Margot; 3 manservants: Alec, Jacob, Lukas; the cook Generica and her son the kitchenboy Benjamin.)

Comrade Tortoise · Post by **Comrade Tortoise** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:18 pm

Guards: Juergen and Nils
Archer: Thomas
Technician: Niehuis

Then there is the hired help and house servants upon whom he does not feed. I will name them as appropriate

rhoenix · Post by **rhoenix** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:58 pm

With the current timeframe, my character will be arriving tomorrow night.

Comrade Tortoise · Post by **Comrade Tortoise** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:01 am

Um... Tev, he couldnt care less about the sins of vampires. Vampires are damned, damned! He wouldnt bother chastising you. Unless he was just trying to get under your skin...

never mind, that is something he would do.

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