Young Justice

[RogueIce]

Cartoon Network tweets when new episodes of DC Nation will air

January.

FUCKING JANUARY????!!!!

[frigidmagi]

Again complain at cartoon network.

[RogueIce]

Again complain at cartoon network.

I'd rather vent my nerd rage in a more less productive way:



Hop on the bandwagon! Make #occupycartoonnetwork a thing!

[Batman]

Not that I expect it to do much, as I'm not only just another guy on the internet but not one of their actual viewers to boot, but I did complain.
Young Justice is one of the few good things to come out of the DCU these last two years and so far, CN's handling of it seems to have been less than stellar.

[frigidmagi]

You do know Rogue that it's harder for them to ignore their inboxes then twitter right? Or is this just to show off?

[RogueIce]

Look don't you get in the way of me venting forth my impotent nerd rage, sir. That and I wanted to revive the whole #occupy meme so there.

But yeah, I doubt it makes a difference either way, TBH. What's done is done.

[Dark Silver]

Just FYI:

Episode 10 "Before the Dawn, Part 1" is available on the iTunes store for purchase/download.

Seems CN's last minute decision was not told to damn near everyone else in the world, which lead to iTunes releasing at least this week's episode out into the wild.

If you manage to watch it, feel free to discuss it.

[Batman]

Okay, the Black Beetle fellow was able to pretty casually take down Conner and Cassie. Those Scarabs seem to indeed be a lot tougher than I gave them credit for. The Reach are finally identified as such and seem to come in several skin colours but essentially one body type, so no telling so far if they're to be one alien race (or a subset thereof), a political or business conglomeration of various races, something completely different, or whatnot. Annoying Fish Boy lives on to get on our nerves in the future, but if we lived in a just world the series wouldn't be on hold until january to begin with.
I may have to review the episode to figure out what the hell went down between Megan and Calder and I have no idea why DS thinks their Batgirl is Steph. There's a Stephanie Brown listed in the credits as being voiced by the same actress as Cassie, but the very same credits also list Barbara Gordon.

[frigidmagi]

She lives! She lives! Fuck you Dido! FUUUCCCKKKK YOOOUUUU!

[RogueIce]

I may have to review the episode to figure out what the hell went down between Megan and Calder

She was in the process of mind-raping him and brought up all the old memories...and then discovered his double agent status. But by then it seems the damage had been done. Just how much damage was done? Well, fucking CN is making us wait until January for some ass-backwards reason.

and I have no idea why DS thinks their Batgirl is Steph. There's a Stephanie Brown listed in the credits as being voiced by the same actress as Cassie, but the very same credits also list Barbara Gordon.

Well maybe if they get a third season (fat chance I know, but I'm hopeful) the timeskip will elevate her to Batgirl? Then again apparently she's got a metagene so they could do something quite different with her character.

I also had no idea where she even was until I went to Tumblr and found out she was the blonde girl in the cage when Robin III and Batgirl infiltrated.

I also find it interesting that, like in the wedding shower scene, Barbara feels no need to hide her ID from anyone while Tim Drake is still under the Sunglasses Mandate. Does Bruce not care? Is Babs simply more independently minded? Is it because she wasn't officially recruited by Batman (unlike Robin) so he leaves it up to her? But if that's the case wasn't Tim's comic origin more-or-less butting in as Robin as well? And unless his father is dead in this universe there shouldn't be a link between Tim Drake and Bruce Wayne. And he's clearly not sharing elements of Jason Todd's backstory like in the DCAU because we saw Robin II's memorial.

Wonder if there's an "Ask Greg" about it...

[Cynical Cat]

Barbara isn't Bruce's adopted kid. She's Jim Gordon's kid and he doesn't have the same kind of authority over her and responsibility for her that he has for the Robins. On top of that he's the one that initiated the various Robins into crime fighting and Barbara started on her own. There's all sorts of lines of authority and responsibility present with the Robins and ex-Robins that simply aren't there with Batgirl.

[Batman]

Actually Tim's comics origins were him trying his level best to kick Dick into taking the job back, he initially only donned the pixie outfit because he had to save our kevlar-clad asses from Two-Face. After that, he asked to be Robin but not because he was particularly eager for it, but because he felt it was a job somebody had to do and Dick no longer wanted it.
A recurring theme in Tim Drake stories is (or used to be anyway) him musing about how he does not want to do this for the rest of his life, nor take over as Batman someday.
The only one who to my knowledge butted in as Robin was Steph (and possibly Damien, but I'm still hoping that if I ignore him long enough he'll be written back out of continuity).

We don't really know the YJ backgrounds of either one but assuming they somewhat follow the comics, yes, it's not all that unlikely that Babs is a little less uptight because she's a semi-independent operator (or started out as one before joining YJ at any rate) while Tim is a direct recruit and thus more likely to follow my lead. It might also be Barbara being a young adult vs Tim still being a kid so I'm overprotective of him but think she's old enough to make her own choices. Heck, for all I know there is no Shades Mandate anymore and being a teenager he simply does it because he thinks it looks cool, or, given how much comics Tim looked up to comics Dick, because the first Robin did it.

[Batman]

THREADOMANCY! (And yes, I have official approval for this, though on hindsight DS might only have said so to get me in trouble, what with part-timing as my archenemy).
Megan looked a paler green then usual for the first half of the episode (s2e13, 'The Fix'), the Green Beetle not only seems to be legit for the time being but also uses a speech pattern close to JJs, Jamie (thanks, archenemy) seems to have full control of the scarab, and getting back to the voice acting again, Black Manta exhibits a speech pattern similar to Calder's, something I never really noticed before.
Conner continues to be uncharacteristically reasonable and I can't believe I'm saying (well, typing) this but I almost feel sorry for Annoying Fish Boy. Hate him all you want but him calling Megan 'Angel Fish' is sweet.

Almost. Because that's about the only thing he has going for him.

[frigidmagi]

Green Beetle... 5 words.

To
Good
To
Be
True.

[Dark Silver]

Well...enjoy the final episodes of the season while it lasts Gentlemen and Women.

Young Justice and Green Lantern have both been excluded from the "returning shows" for next season.


Instead we will get "Teen Titans Go!" and "Beware the Batman".




I sense a big error on CN's part here, Young Justice should be allowed to continue on. . .

[Batman]

YJ was the closest thing to the Timmverse we got since the end of JLU (at least on the DC side, I was rather taken with The Avengers:Earth's Mightiest Heroes. Which apparently was also terminated after two seasons). I think they're wasting a lot of both story and character building potential there even with only the currently open plot points. I also don't see them resolving all the multiple subplots in what is likely going to be no more than 12 additional episodes. JLA as criminals, the Reach trying to take over the Earth, Green/Blue Beetle/prophecy of doom, Conner/Megan/Annoying Fish Boy love triangle, what in Valen's name is the Light up to, and that's just the obvious ones. There's the Timm adapting to being team leader issue, Artemis and Daddy being a supercriminal, Roy probably has a score to settle (as does clone Roy), oh, and they have to solve Megan's recent 'me no more mindwipe' issue (not to mention there's still tons of things we need to know about what happened in the five year gap-like what it was that made Megan turn into a green teenage Batman).

[RogueIce]

Green Beetle... 5 words.

To
Good
To
Be
True.

And indeed he is. Glad they came right out and said it. And now Luthor gets his own Team.

God damn you Cartoon Network for not keeping this show going, you pieces of shit.

[Batman]

Can't say Green being a plant came as much of a surprise really, but I guess hope springs eternal.
So Virgil's pretty obviously Static but I have no clue who any other of the kids are. And wouldn't it have been prudent to teach Japanese Cannonball Girl at least rudimentary english, what with her being in a US institution surrounded by people who do, how shall I put it, NOT speak japanese, first and foremost her fellow students?
Wasn't Red Volcano sort of destroyed last season? And of course we had to keep the AMAZO parts. I mean what could possibly go wrong when you have the pieces of a nigh invincible android lying about? I mean it's not like any problems arose in 'Schooled' or something. Oh wait. Why doesn't anybody ever listen to me?

[White Haven]

You keep taking the Joker alive; I don't think you have any real credibility left by now.

[Batman]

So now it's somehow my fault that the DC US legal system can't be arsed to death sentence the guy. I just take'em in. Deciding proper punishment isn't my job, it's that of the courts. Besides, the guy's got no superpowers whatsoever (possibly excluding a certain immunity to toxins). If the authorities really wanted him dead, why wasn't he done in by a police sniper years ago?

[RogueIce]

So Virgil's pretty obviously Static but I have no clue who any other of the kids are.

The growing dude is an obvious allusion to Apache Chief of Superfriends "fame". At least that's where I know him from, don't know if he ever migrated into the comics at some point. Also referenced by that one dude of the Ultimatum team from JLU.

No clue about the rest of 'em though.

[frigidmagi]

I like the updated Apache Chief.

[Cynical Cat]

I think the Japanese girl with the whirlwind charge is Super Samurai.

[frigidmagi]

Wiki agrees with the Cat.

[Batman]

Okay, so we have Virgil, Hurricane Girl, and Grows really big American Indian placed. (And while I don't know beans about the Superfriends-and am probably better off that way- I liked the way they did it with the Ultimen in JLU better) So who's I can teleport except I have to be able to see where I'm going and I can't take anybody along except it turns out that yes I can?
The obvious suspect would of course be Marvel's Nightcrawler, except that a) he's Marvel, and b) he's been taking people along and porting into locations he's never seen before for decades.