Actually, that's not in the Bible

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#1 Actually, that's not in the Bible

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An article that should be required reading for many, since misquoting the bible and misapplying the text is all too common for people with an ideological axe to grind.

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[quote]Actually, that's not in the Bible

By John Blake, CNN

(CNN) – NFL legend Mike Ditka was giving a news conference one day after being fired as the coach of the Chicago Bears when he decided to quote the Bible.

“Scripture tells you that all things shall pass,â€
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To be honest I thought it a simplification of this:
Ecclesiastes 3, New International Translation wrote:1
There is a time for everything,
and a season for every activity under heaven:
2 a time to be born and a time to die,
a time to plant and a time to uproot,
3 a time to kill and a time to heal,
a time to tear down and a time to build,
4 a time to weep and a time to laugh,
a time to mourn and a time to dance,
5 a time to scatter stones and a time to gather them,
a time to embrace and a time to refrain,
6 a time to search and a time to give up,
a time to keep and a time to throw away,
7 a time to tear and a time to mend,
a time to be silent and a time to speak,
8 a time to love and a time to hate,
a time for war and a time for peace.
The phrase this to shall pass is alot easier to say then that whole poem. I will note that King Solomen was noted to have said it in Jewish folklore. As were Persian Poets, Romans, English storytellers and Abraham Lincoln.
Lincoln wrote:It is said an Eastern monarch once charged his wise men to invent him a sentence, to be ever in view, and which should be true and appropriate in all times and situations. They presented him the words: "And this, too, shall pass away." How much it expresses! How chastening in the hour of pride! How consoling in the depths of affliction
I would honestly say the thought is in Bible but not that phrase. Course this does show a weakness of American Christianity, a glaring weakness that seems common to all segments of America.

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Some of these, such as the shortenings, are completely understandable to me. As Frigid explained, sure you could quote the entire source, but you can get the idea across faster.

Other ones, yeah. I think they're spot on for the cause of it too. It's the Bible, it has everything that we like in it. Or at least that's the average understanding of the bible. They want faith to be nice and safe and understood, understanding their faith could threaten that.

The other big thing now is the translations. When you can pick the same verse out of five different bibles and manage to get six definitions, that will lead to misunderstandings.
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