Moderator: B4UTRUST
Alright, start here: basic reference info, including character creation steps.Haizu wrote:Well can someone just give me hand with all this? I don't have time to get to the book store and get the books.
It'll work, but I don't recommend it. It's 2nd edition and their are some ability changes between 2nd and 3rd.Haizu wrote:Their site is down. Will this character sheet work: http://www.cs.utk.edu/~chadwell/vamp.html
2300 is the Revised Edition which is the 3rd edition. Which means the abilities section of the character sheet is wrong.rhoenix wrote:According to Jason_Firewalker, this is 2300 rules, which are basically edition 2.5 rules. Going with 2nd edition stats and clans is fine.
When he was helping me make my character last night (because I don't have the books and he does), this is what he went by.Cynical Cat wrote:2300 is the Revised Edition which is the 3rd edition. Which means the abilities section of the character sheet is wrong.
Whatever Firewalker wants, but its not a good idea to use a 2nd edition character sheet for a Revised character, especially if the character has Presence.rhoenix wrote:When he was helping me make my character last night (because I don't have the books and he does), this is what he went by.Cynical Cat wrote:2300 is the Revised Edition which is the 3rd edition. Which means the abilities section of the character sheet is wrong.
While true, it does fit his character's concept. And, he can still visit the mainstay of every vampire who doesn't have feeding grounds: the local goth club.Cynical Cat wrote:Haizu, the thing your character must do every couple of nights and which if he fucks up badly could get him killed, is feed. You've built a pure combat monster with no social skills or disciplines or backgrounds. You might want to rethink that.
And fail to pick up anyone. His humanity is on the low side, his social skills are non existent, his social attributes are low, he's not loaded, and he's Gangrel.rhoenix wrote:
While true, it does fit his character's concept.
Combat monster with no life other than commando work? That's not a
And, he can still visit the mainstay of every vampire who doesn't have feeding grounds: the local goth club.
With all do respect, the fact that he has no skills other than "special forces badass" makes the character a joke. A Vampire who doesn't develop good feeding habits, and their a number of different options, won't survive his early nights especially in the Camarilla. He'll be taught better than that and if he can't pick it up he'll be put down like a dog.Jason_Firewalker wrote:Let me put in a cent or 2 here.... Basically I can deal with the lack of skill as a feeder but the guys tend to be right, so lets leave this as be and see if I will give bonuses to situational modifiers.
He's never used the WW system before, and that's the route he wanted to go - a primarily physical "loner" sort of character. Since both Jason and myself were helping him, I suppose we could take partial blame for it - it this depends entirely on Jason's style of GM'ing. It could be a problem, it could only be a speed bump. We'll see.B4UTRUST wrote:Actually, considering his lack of experiance with the game, it's entirely probably he lacked not knowledge of the rules but rather hard knowledge of the game world and was not aware of his need to be the social vampire at times.
Of course, he may have had that sort of knowledge and just decided to go hardcore combat machine. I don't know, just throwing it out there as a possibility before we all start screaming at each other over something easily corrected.