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Cynical Cat · Post by **Cynical Cat** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 3:35 pm

Dark Silver wrote:She doesn't know it's that guy.

She only knows it's Ghost.

Empathy is only one of her powers. She'll never detect the emotional whirlwind centered around her.

Wait.

LadyTevar · Post by **LadyTevar** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 3:38 pm

Yeah...

See, this is why I didn't want to find them. I wanted to give them time to build up to be a threat, where we could go take them out as a team, and have a nice explosive end to things.

So, yes, I was trying to OOC things with DS and B4 so I couldnt' find them. The parts about Argent not being able to catch up with them was true -- she cant' fly 200mph. The whole fuss about not emerging is also a true limit.. she was focusing on GHOST, not the area around him. He could have been flying around MC and she couldn't catch him or know that was his location.

But, as Nitram let me know pointedly, OOC manip is no way to fight OOC manip. Let the GM handle it.

So, we get this charming little scene with Argent and Sentinel. Enjoy.

Cynical Cat · Post by **Cynical Cat** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 3:41 pm

What was wrong with appearing in a desert shadow and then coming home and saying "yeah, that was Ghost, he was flying and I lost him?" That would have worked fine. That was what I was aiming for, since Fisher was out of town.

LadyTevar · Post by **LadyTevar** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 3:53 pm

Go reread what I posted, Cyncat.

FOCUS On Ghost. On the Link. It was moving too fast for her to catch a shadow close to The Link. What is so hard to understand about that?!?

Post by **Dark Silver** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 3:54 pm

Cynical Cat wrote:
Dark Silver wrote:She doesn't know it's that guy.

She only knows it's Ghost.
Empathy is only one of her powers. She'll never detect the emotional whirlwind centered around her.

Wait.

What whirlwind?

There's Ghost, and Saibot. And Saibot, as we have already explained for what....two chapters now? Is a complete and utter blank to her. She CAN'T read him! He's a big black spot to her.

Ghost and Saibot worked out what was to be said should Argent decide to come to Ghost for a visit while their around each other. Along with the cover story.

Cynical Cat · Post by **Cynical Cat** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 3:57 pm

LadyTevar wrote:Go reread what I posted, Cyncat.

FOCUS On Ghost. On the Link. It was moving too fast for her to catch a shadow close to The Link. What is so hard to understand about that?!?

Then don't have her teleport at all. My problems were

1) The base being too damn near Vegas.

2) Not having shadows to catch.

Saying he was moving to fast to lock onto would have been fine and your call.

LadyTevar · Post by **LadyTevar** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 4:15 pm

To explain why Argent can't read Saibot anymore, I'm going to tell you a story about a co-worker of mine.

She was moving her computer, and needed to unplug the monitor from the back. She, having very little computer experience, simply pulled on the plug until it came out... never knowing that she was supposed UNSCREW the plug first. Then, she wondered why the monitor didn't work when she reinserted the plug.

So, when Saibot went nuts, he pulled the plug completely off Argent's motherboard. There's no more connection, and will never be any connection ever again, unless you can find someone to heal the metaphysical damage to her.

Hotfoot · Post by **Hotfoot** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 4:46 pm

Lack of a signal is still information. If she picks up things from random people around her, she SHOULD be able to sense something from Saibot normally. If the damage is as bad as you're saying, there should be a noticeable lack of signal, which is saying something as is. The only two options are 1. Robots or 2. Saibot.

Post by **Dark Silver** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 4:48 pm

or a third

Psi-shield designed to block Empathic and Psychic power sets.

Cynical Cat · Post by **Cynical Cat** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 4:52 pm

Dark Silver wrote:or a third

Psi-shield designed to block Empathic and Psychic power sets.

Which Ghost doesn't have but maybe Saibot does? Not very likely is it? No way you slice it that it isn't suspicious.

LadyTevar · Post by **LadyTevar** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 4:55 pm

Shes got a link to Ghost, which might be why she's hearing him. She can't hear Tachyon, remember. That shroud around his mind blocks all but the strongest impulses from reaching her. So, psi-block is very likely.

Cynical Cat · Post by **Cynical Cat** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 5:00 pm

LadyTevar wrote:Shes got a link to Ghost, which might be why she's hearing him. She can't hear Tachyon, remember. That shroud around his mind blocks all but the strongest impulses from reaching her. So, psi-block is very likely.

And a psi shield would stop her from hearing Ghost. Again, it doesn't make sense that only one of them is shielded.

LadyTevar · Post by **LadyTevar** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 5:25 pm

*sigh*

To her, it does. She's linked to Ghost, thus she can hear Ghost. If you want to push this, we'll get B4 to make a call.

Cynical Cat · Post by **Cynical Cat** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 5:29 pm

LadyTevar wrote:*sigh*

To her, it does. She's linked to Ghost, thus she can hear Ghost. If you want to push this, we'll get B4 to make a call.

Your empathy isn't omnipotent. A strong enough shield can stop it. I have no interest in pushing it. That Argent can read someone she's linked to easier than others makes perfect sense. There's no way Argent getting no sense of shields off Ghost and nothing from Saibot isn't going to be suspicious to Blackheart. That is my call.

LadyTevar · Post by **LadyTevar** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 5:38 pm

Is the idea of open mask v/s closed going to work better?

LadyTevar · Post by **LadyTevar** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:30 pm

And now it's He Said, She Said in Heros.

Any bets on how long before Blackheart and Argent are fighting?

Post by **Dark Silver** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:34 pm

five bucks Two minutes before Argent teleports them to the hidden base in the desert and I'm a smeer on the wall because I'm going to defend my "home"....

Also, Ghost said he was approached, not that his bosses told him to transfer. But this is more easily chalked up to Argent misunderstanding.

LadyTevar · Post by **LadyTevar** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:40 pm

According to B4 if I try to teleport inside the base, I get bounced painfully back to my Point Of Origin as I meet the Teleport Block.

Anyone with me also gets to suffer.

LadyTevar · Post by **LadyTevar** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:41 pm

Geee... Fight starting already?

Cynical Cat · Post by **Cynical Cat** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:42 pm

Dark Silver wrote:five bucks Two minutes before Argent teleports them to the hidden base in the desert and I'm a smeer on the wall because I'm going to defend my "home"....

Yah, the killings and the meta killings and the prison break with more deaths have nothing to do with this situation at all.

Post by **Dark Silver** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:43 pm

Blackheart wrote: . Do you think that any part of the government would let Saibot walk away with a magic saber and power ring?

According to the backstory, those were Saibot's before he joined the Guardian Force, so how exactly could they stop him from walking out with his property even if they were government?

Cynical Cat · Post by **Cynical Cat** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:45 pm

Dark Silver wrote:
Blackheart wrote: . Do you think that any part of the government would let Saibot walk away with a magic saber and power ring?
According to the backstory, those were Saibot's before he joined the Guardian Force, so how exactly could they stop him from walking out with his property even if they were government?

Does Blackheart know that? No, he doesn't. All he knows is that GF existed and folded and had weapons like that and the government doesn't let its retired agents take million or billion dollar unique weapons home with them.

LadyTevar · Post by **LadyTevar** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:55 pm

Alexander won't know this info. Some of Mirage team won't know it. Blackheart won't know it, I'm sure.

Go back and read Chapter One, and you'll see where Saibot showed Argent the Trophy Room and revealed who's alive and who's dead from the Guardians.

LadyTevar · Post by **LadyTevar** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:15 pm

......... Umm.....

Other than RCE, which we've managed to stop ... What *WAS* the Long Term Goal?!?

Cynical Cat · Post by **Cynical Cat** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:30 pm

LadyTevar wrote:......... Umm.....

Other than RCE, which we've managed to stop ... What *WAS* the Long Term Goal?!?

The agents who strolled into Ultima, did whatever they wanted, stole shit, got away, and threatened to blow up city blocks when caught? The guys who seemed to be some kind of disposable vat jobs and possibly bought from RCE?

Those guys. Who have lots of US gov access.

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