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#1 Study suggests humans mated with Neanderthals

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:26 am
by frigidmagi
CSMonitor
Humans today could be part Neanderthal, according to a new study that found our ancestors interbred with an extinct hominid species some millennia ago.

Neanderthals walked the Earth between about 130,000 and 30,000 years ago. While they co-existed with modern humans for a while, eventually they went extinct and we didn't. There has been intense scientific debate over how similar the two species were, and whether they might have mated with each other.

"The issue has been highly contentious for some time," said University of New Mexico genetic anthropologist Keith Hunley.

Last week at the annual meeting of the American Association of Physical Anthropologists in Albuquerque, N.M., Hunley and colleagues presented the results of a new study that found evidence for interbreeding between modern humans and some other extinct ancient human species – either Neanderthals (Homo neanderthalensis) or another group such as Homo heidelbergensis. The research was first reported by NatureNews.

The researchers looked at DNA samples from humans living today, and found signs of leftover Neanderthal genes introduced from this interbreeding. They looked at genetic data from almost 2,000 people around the world, and calculated how much genetic variation existed between samples. The results indicate that some extinct group of hominids mixed their genes with ours at two points in history, Hunley said.

One period of interbreeding probably occurred shortly after Homo sapiens migrated out of Africa around 60,000 years ago. The researchers found an excess of genetic diversity in all modern people except Africans, suggesting that the influx of Neanderthal-like DNA came after the exodus from Africa.

A second period of interbreeding is suggested by the fact that the researchers measured even more genetic diversity among people of Oceanic descent – people from Australia, New Zealand, New Guinea and other Pacific islands.

"I think we show there's clear evidence in the genome of living people of this mixture," Hunley told LiveScience. "The fact that there's a clear signal implies that there was some significant amount" of interbreeding, he said.

This work is the first time scientists have used DNA from living people to look at this question, Hunley said.

In an earlier study, Erik Trinkaus of Washington University in St. Louis found suggestions of Neanderthal and modern human interbreeding by comparing ancient bone fossils from the two species.

Trinkaus said the new work fits into his findings, though he hasn't reviewed the details yet since Hunley's paper has not yet been published in a peer-reviewed journal. "The conclusion makes sense and fits with the majority of the data available," Trinkaus said.

Another anthropologist who has studied Neanderthal anatomy agreed.

"I have been arguing for this position throughout my career, ever since I began to study Neandertals and other populations," said Milford Wolpoff of the University of Michigan. "It has always seemed clear that some Neandertal anatomy appears in living populations."

Not everyone, though, will be easily convinced yet, Hunley said.
Well... I'll be damned.

#2

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:40 am
by SirNitram
This is huge. It means our ancestors and our extinct cousins were so close you couldn't consider them seperate species.

#3

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 11:26 am
by Cynical Cat
By the way, my father the archeologist has generally believed this to be the case (there's a split in the discipline about it).

#4

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:46 pm
by frigidmagi
It seems your father was right. Honestly I didn't think this was case, so there goes my record.

#5

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 1:48 pm
by Charon
As the article points out, this has been theorized for awhile, but I think this is the first solid proof behind the theory.

#6

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:59 pm
by Cynical Cat
Charon wrote:As the article points out, this has been theorized for awhile, but I think this is the first solid proof behind the theory.
My dad has this great anecdote about how when this first came up, back when he was a student. The TA that was teaching the class mentioned all the physical characteristics of neanderthals. He possessed every one of those features and touched them as he mentioned them. :lol:

#7

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 7:59 pm
by LadyTevar
Obviously, inter-breeding in this case did not produce a Mule, otherwise the genetics would not have been passed down. It is possible that the interbreeding was more like a Lyger or Tigon, where only certain pairings allow for fertile offspring.

#8

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 10:53 pm
by Comrade Tortoise
SirNitram wrote:This is huge. It means our ancestors and our extinct cousins were so close you couldn't consider them seperate species.
Actually yeah you still can. The gene flow would not have had to be massive. There are a lot of modern species that if you put them together, can interbreed successfully though often with reduced hybrid fitness. All that has to happen is a situation like that, where enough hybrids survive to introgress into the H. sapiens parental lineage.