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Alcohol 'more harmful than heroin' says Prof David Nutt

Alcohol is more harmful than heroin or crack, according to a study published in medical journal the Lancet.

The report is co-authored by Professor David Nutt, the former UK chief drugs adviser who was sacked by the government in October 2009.

It ranks 20 drugs on 16 measures of harm to users and to wider society.

Gavin Partington, of the Wine and Spirit Trade Association, said alcohol abuse affected "a minority" who needed "education, treatment and enforcement".

The study also said tobacco and cocaine are judged to be equally harmful, while ecstasy and LSD are among the least damaging.

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Prof Nutt refused to leave the drugs debate when he was sacked from his official post by the former Labour Home Secretary, Alan Johnson.

He went on to form the Independent Scientific Committee on Drugs, a body which aims to investigate the drug issue without any political interference.

One of its other members is Dr Les King, another former government adviser who quit over Prof Nutt's treatment.

Members of the group, joined by two other experts, scored each drug for harms including mental and physical damage, addiction, crime and costs to the economy and communities.

The BBC's home editor, Mark Easton, writes in his blog that the study involved 16 criteria, including a drug's affects on users' physical and mental health, social harms including crime, "family adversities" and environmental damage, economic costs and "international damage".

The modelling exercise concluded that heroin, crack and methylamphetamine, also known as crystal meth, were the most harmful drugs to individuals, but alcohol, heroin and crack cocaine were the most harmful to society.

When the scores for both types of harm were added together, alcohol emerged as the most harmful drug, followed by heroin and crack.
'Valid and necessary'

The findings run contrary to the government's long-established drug classification system, but the paper's authors argue that their system - based on the consensus of experts - provides an accurate assessment of harm for policy makers.

"Our findings lend support to previous work in the UK and the Netherlands, confirming that the present drug classification systems have little relation to the evidence of harm," the paper says.

"They also accord with the conclusions of previous expert reports that aggressively targeting alcohol harms is a valid and necessary public health strategy."

In 2007, Prof Nutt and colleagues undertook a limited attempt to create a harm ranking system, sparking controversy over the criteria and the findings.

The new more complex system ranked alcohol three times more harmful than cocaine or tobacco. Ecstasy was ranked as causing one-eighth the harm of alcohol.

It also contradicted the Home Office's decision to make so-called legal high mephedrone a Class B drug, saying that alcohol was five times more harmful. The rankings have been published to coincide with a conference on drugs policy, organised by Prof Nutt's committee.
'Extraordinary lengths'

Prof Nutt told the BBC: "Overall, alcohol is the most harmful drug because it's so widely used.

"Crack cocaine is more addictive than alcohol but because alcohol is so widely used there are hundreds of thousands of people who crave alcohol every day, and those people will go to extraordinary lengths to get it."

He said it was important to separate harm to individuals and harm to society.

The Lancet paper written by Prof Nutt, Dr King and Dr Lawrence Phillips, does not examine the harm caused to users by taking more than one drug at a time.

Mr Partington, who is the spokesman for the Wine and Spirit Trade Association, said millions of people enjoyed alcohol "as part of a regular and enjoyable social drink".

"Clearly alcohol misuse is a problem in the country and our real fear is that, by talking in such extreme terms, Professor Nutt and his colleagues risk switching people off from considering the real issues and the real action that is needed to tackle alcohol misuse," he said.

"We are talking about a minority. We need to focus policy around that minority, which is to do with education, treatment and enforcement."

A Home Office spokesman said: "Our priorities are clear - we want to reduce drug use, crack down on drug-related crime and disorder and help addicts come off drugs for good."
Well, that's interesting. Of course, the pro drug control lobby will probably dismiss it out of hand.
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I'll agree Alcohol is a hell of a destructive drug, but you can use it over a long period of time with minimal impact on yourself. Most of us can dry out if we need to. Can we say that about Heron?
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Though it lacks the chemically-addictive qualities of heroin, I think part of the problem is alcohol's social acceptance. I can name about four people off the top of my head who drown their troubles in alcohol, because it's available and "other people do it too." Consequently, it's effects are commensurately greater and more widespread.
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Let's be clear about something, this is a study that is based on current usages and resultant damages to society as a whole. It's like saying that the flu is more damaging than HIV/AIDS or cancer. There's no question that if Cancer or HIV/AIDS were as common as the flu it would be utterly ruinous to society as a whole. Same as if hard drugs were sold at any given corner store. Now if we could come up with safer options, stuff with the same level of threat as tobacco, marijuana, and alcohol, hey, sure, awesome, why not? That's not always the case though.

The question should be how dangerous a drug is if it were widely available, not based on current demographics.

Now as far as developing better support structures for people who abuse alcohol and such? Hey, fine, sounds good, but good luck with it.
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Hotfoot wrote:The question should be how dangerous a drug is if it were widely available, not based on current demographics.
Too true - I misrepresented the issue in my post.

With that in mind though, do you think the ratio of alcoholic content in liquor skews the health problems, as opposed to alcoholic beverages with lighter alcoholic content, such as beer?
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rhoenix wrote:
Hotfoot wrote:The question should be how dangerous a drug is if it were widely available, not based on current demographics.
Too true - I misrepresented the issue in my post.

With that in mind though, do you think the ratio of alcoholic content in liquor skews the health problems, as opposed to alcoholic beverages with lighter alcoholic content, such as beer?
No, because if your goal is to get mind boggling drunk you can do it on beer, it just takes a few hours longer (and you have to pee a lot more).
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