What joystick do you use?

Batman · Post by **Batman** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:38 pm

What the topic says. Which (if any) joystick do you use, and why?
Me, I've got a Saitek Cyborg 3D.
It's a 4-axis 4 (theoretically 8) button stick with a hat and was, at the time, the only left-handed (well, technically neutral but configurable for left/right handed) stick on the market, and frankly, I still love it. I just wish the throttle would go to 100% without forcing it.
I don't play actual flight sims all that much, but for space arcade fighter sims (XvT, Alliance, Privateer Remake etc) it works like a charm.
OH, and a CH something-or-other 2 button 2 axis stick on my beta PC. Because it was there.

Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman · Mon Sep 25, 2006 8:51 pm

CH and Thrustmaster HOTAS sets for serious flightsims (which I'm playing a littles less and less these days), Logitech Wingman USB for space shooters / arcade sims.

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:46 pm

Saitek Cyborg Evo Pro

Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman · Wed Sep 27, 2006 1:25 am

Just wonder, why are you guys using the Saitek Cyborg?

Batman · Post by **Batman** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 6:08 am

You HAVE read my OP, have you? Only left-handed flightstick on the market.

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 7:52 am

Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman wrote:Just wonder, why are you guys using the Saitek Cyborg?

Because my Forcefeedback 2 died, and I don't play realistic sims.

I use my joystick for FS2 and Mechwarrior, I don't need percise adjustments or 20 million buttons. I can live on 6 on the stick.

Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman · Wed Sep 27, 2006 8:01 am

Batman wrote:You HAVE read my OP, have you? Only left-handed flightstick on the market.

I know, but Ace uses Saitek Cyborg too, and from what I've heard, it offers a quiten lot of functionality for a non-HOTAS setup. Is that true? Will it make a better replacement for my Logitech Wingman?

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 8:06 am

It's nice, but I'll admit I'm using 10% of the available functionality. I'm using the thruster, the top 6 buttons and hat. None of the side buttons, no shift, no macros.

Batman · Post by **Batman** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 9:23 am

Same here. It does everything I need it to and I don't use it to the full extend of its capabilites. I don't use the four buttons on the base nor the shift function (you can have two functions on each button) and I can't remember the last time I bothered to program it.

Hotfoot · Post by **Hotfoot** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 10:35 pm

I have a Saitek Cyborg 3D Gold USB. I plan on getting X52 when I have the means/reason to get a HOTAS.

When I have the gumption, I use just about every aspect of the sticks, including macros and shifters. Back when I had my X36 for Mechwarrior 3, I had all sorts of functions tied to the HOTAS, squad commands, coolant flushing, jump jets, the works.

I've made various macros for some games, most specifically I-War 2, where I created a macro that throws all TRI power to weapons when the trigger is pressed, fires continuously, then resets power to normal when you let go of the trigger.

They're fantastic sticks, reasonable in price, and with some great functionality.

LadyTevar · Post by **LadyTevar** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:37 pm

Nitram's.

Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman · Fri Sep 29, 2006 2:23 am

LadyTevar wrote:Nitram's.

I guess he lets you playing with it more often than he plays it himself. I'd just like to note that, due to gaming excitement, excessive physical abuse may unintentionally happen, and it could damage the stick. My (now-ex) girlfriend almost broke my stick during an exciting gameplay.

Hotfoot · Post by **Hotfoot** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 7:59 am

It is at this point I will post my making fun of a random cybersexer.

--------------------------------------
ICQ History Log For:
******** traci
Started on Sun Sep 17 13:22:50 2000
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traci: do you have a deadly weapon in your hand?

Hotfoot: In a manner of speaking....I suppose you could say that...

traci: mmmm might I see?

Hotfoot: Sure....*shows you his mouse*

traci: teaser...I like it...

Hotfoot: *blinks* Hmm? I assure you, I tease not. *points to the mouse* With this device, I have laid waste to entire civilizations.

traci: I was hoping for hand to hand combat hehehe

Hotfoot: Hand to hand combat is only for when I run out of ammunition.

traci: can you show me your tool of destruction?

Hotfoot: ^_^ Sure. *shows you a Cyborg 3D USB joystick*

traci: please don't tease me I really want to see...

Hotfoot: *blinks* What? I use that for everything from piloting mecha to X-wing fighters! Then there's my Saitek P750 joypad, and my multi-function keyboard, and my 19" monitor. All of which help me on a good day of senseless annihilation.

traci: but I want you on a recue mission......

Hotfoot: Oh? ^_^ What kind of rescue mission?

traci: my body is trapped in clothing and needs to be freed then resusitate me

Hotfoot: Ahh...well, in /that/ case....*cuts your clothes off with a gunblade, then casts LIFE3 on you* ^_^ There ya go, all better!

traci: nevermind....

Hotfoot: ^_^ okay.....*snickers*

Batman · Post by **Batman** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 9:30 am

As a matter of fact back in the CBM64 days I actually broke a good number of joysticks (some of them literally) and that was sure as hell not because they were particularly fragile. The 'Games' series and Decathlon were murder on joysticks.

elderdan · Post by **elderdan** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:14 pm

I hold my own genitals and control the computer with my mind.

(Man, it's been a long time since I actually played anything that used a joystick, PS2 games aside, now that I think about it...)

--The Elder Dan

Post by **Dark Silver** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 1:33 am

......

I use a gamepad, not a joystick.

a Game Elements GGE909 recoil

has a wind up USB plug and all.....

Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman · Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:37 am

Well based on my experience, CH sticks are still unmatched in durability; my CH stick still retains its precision and spring tension after all these years --the same years where I have been replacing various Logitech Wingman sticks.

But of course, those CH sets (stick, throttle, pedals) are not USB :sad:

Batman · Post by **Batman** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 4:52 pm

Well I got my Cyborg back when it came out ('98 or thereabouts) and it's still working perfectly. And what's wrong with using the game port?

Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman · Sun Oct 01, 2006 8:21 pm

Batman wrote:Well I got my Cyborg back when it came out ('98 or thereabouts) and it's still working perfectly. And what's wrong with using the game port?

Um, it means I couldn't use the CH with my laptop.

On the other hand, one does not usually carry a HOTAS set around either.

Soontir948 · Post by **Soontir948** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:20 am

Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman wrote:
Batman wrote:Well I got my Cyborg back when it came out ('98 or thereabouts) and it's still working perfectly. And what's wrong with using the game port?
Um, it means I couldn't use the CH with my laptop. On the other hand, one does not usually carry a HOTAS set around either.

There are adapters you can buy that can hook it up to USB ports but I wouldn't know where to look. My now dead Microsoft Sidewinder came with one.

The X52 feels like it is made from cheap plastic compare to the 45 which I is what I use.

Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman · Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:36 pm

Soontir948 wrote:There are adapters you can buy that can hook it up to USB ports but I wouldn't know where to look. My now dead Microsoft Sidewinder came with one.

If I "cascade" my stick, throttle, and pedals (something I do with my Thrustmasters), can the adapter recognize the configuration?

Soontir948 wrote:The X52 feels like it is made from cheap plastic compare to the 45 which I is what I use.

Hey, I know how you feel. They made real joysticks back then, but now.....

SmackleFunky · Post by **SmackleFunky** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 5:15 pm

Logitech Force 3D Pro. BUT I don't have any games to use it with. Played X3 for a while but got over that too quickly. Nowadays there isn't any games fit for the joystick (and I am not into flight sims).

I miss Descent. But even those games are better fit for the gamepad.

Batman · Post by **Batman** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 5:21 pm

How people play even highly unrealistic flightsims with a gamepad is a complete mystery to me. Hell how people play ANYTHING with a gamepad is a mystery to me.

Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman · Tue Oct 03, 2006 8:01 pm

Batman wrote:How people play even highly unrealistic flightsims with a gamepad is a complete mystery to me. Hell how people play ANYTHING with a gamepad is a mystery to me.

Um, fighting games?

But you're correct about the former; even the highly unrealistic Freelancer is supposed to be played with mouse and keyboard instead of a bloody gamepad.

Brother-Captain Gaius · Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:34 am

Microsoft Force Feedback Pro (Sidewinder family). Say what you will about Microsoft, they make damn fine joysticks. I've had this one since MechWarrior 3 came out. It's only flaw is its size (rather bulky, being one of those 1st-gen force feedback things).

Prior to this one I had an MS 3D Sidewinder Pro. It still works like a dream, I just don't have a use for it.

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