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#1 iPod will be illegal?
Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:12 pm
by Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman
Here's the linky.
Last week, the U.S. Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation held a hearing on the "Broadcast Flag" and "Audio Flag," a set of proposals by the MPAA and RIAA that would stifle innovation by giving content holders a veto over new technologies and existing user rights.
I wonder whether the US Senators will suck the small little cock of corporate vampires and fuck the consumers or not.
If hell exist, I hope MPAA/RIAA executives would go to hell and must conform to hell's 'pay-per-breath' scheme; that is, where they have to pay for
every single breath they take.
#2
Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 4:01 pm
by frigidmagi
Will somebody tell these idiots that the new techs will be made regardless, if they say yes they're just ensureing someone else makes them. Talk about shitting away the tech edge...
#3
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 6:18 am
by Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman
frigidmagi wrote:Will somebody tell these idiots that the new techs will be made regardless, if they say yes they're just ensureing someone else makes them. Talk about shitting away the tech edge...
I'm actually anticipating the worse; if the proposal is approved, they may follow it with import restriction on MP3 players and such.
#4
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 12:09 pm
by B4UTRUST
Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if such went through but I can hope it won't. There is enough valid reasons for MP3s and mp3 players that it shouldn't happen. But, as we've seen time and time again, the MPAA and RIAA seem to hold substantial sway with the government.
Now, if this is just another way for them to stiffle MP3 formatted music, we'll they're shit outta luck. It'll never go away. It's impossible. As will pirating music. Now, if they were to sign some decent new artists and have them produce more the one good album in their career I might buy cds again. If currently signed artists made a good album instead of one good song and 14 craptastic 3-4minute instances of noise I might by cds again.
What is really interesting to note is that the RIAA has been operating in the red for years now. And not by a little. But the fact that the record industries are losing money is of course attributed to pirates, be they 12 year old girl or 60 year old grandmother. It's never that their artists suck, that their prices suck, that buying that new ipod has left little cash for a cd or that the growing costs of living through gas and energy has left some people less able to buy frivilous things such as the new Britney Spears or Metallica album. It's all about those criminal malicious pirates, sucking the next ferrari or lambo from the RIAA away.
#5
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:20 pm
by Narsil
Evil pirates! Bad pirates! No biscuit!
Oh, and you forgot their standards of "Image > Quality"
Who cares if one woman can outsing the entire USA's population of half-decent artists combined, she's got a big mole on her nose: No one's going to buy that!!!
#6
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 11:32 pm
by Caz
Dakarne wrote:Evil pirates! Bad pirates! No biscuit!
Oh, and you forgot their standards of "Image > Quality"
Who cares if one woman can outsing the entire USA's population of half-decent artists combined, she's got a big mole on her nose: No one's going to buy that!!!
YOU'VE REVEALED MY SECRET. YOU FOUL, FOUL VILLAIN! :(
#7
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 4:52 am
by Narsil
YOU'VE REVEALED MY SECRET. YOU FOUL, FOUL VILLAIN! :(
I wouldn't care if you had a second head. I buy music for the quality thereof
The latter of those two sentences might explain why I haven't bought a single CD in roughly
five years
#8
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 10:49 pm
by Bratty
Even as a child, I remember a time they went through this with VCRs and blank tapes.
Hopefully, but doubtfully (these are politicians we are talking about here), they will use a bit of common sense when applying the law.
Most of the people who download illegally are either too poor to purchase the myriad of CDs they want just for a single song, or want to try something out before buying it. Anyone else get caught with that single song syndrom on a CD? You buy it for a song and then realize that it was only worth that song. Yeah, I never forgave the meat puppets or 4 non blondes back in the day.
Those who have the money to purchase CDs on a regular basis do not have the time, or wish to TAKE the time to look for all this music, try and find good copies, download it, and pray to gods nothing goes wrong in the process. What a headache. I don't know a single successful person at all who has that TIME.
Now what the average consumer would probably do is download a song their friend told them was cool to try it out and see what they think. I do this all the time. If I like them, I will buy the CD. If I don't, I won't.
Whether they outlaw this or not, even if people stop pirating over the internet, people will barrow their friends music if they want to be wise consumers and find out if they like something. The internet and sharing programs just makes it easier.
#9
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 8:11 am
by Elheru Aran
iPods illegal? Not happening.
The RIAA/MPAA being asses of themselves and trying to make it so? Probably. Can they make it heinously difficult for us to use iPods and mp3 players? They can try, and will probably succeed in some way.
Will people find ways around these difficulties? Almost certainly. In fact, I'd say it's virtually a given.
#10
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 9:08 am
by B4UTRUST
Bratty wrote:Now what the average consumer would probably do is download a song their friend told them was cool to try it out and see what they think. I do this all the time. If I like them, I will buy the CD. If I don't, I won't.
My personal problem is about 3/4ths of the cds and artists I listen to on a regular basis...you can't buy in stores. I can't go to walmart and pick up their newest album. Some of them yes, i could, but rarely is this the case.
Kidney Thieves anyone? Collide? Heather Alexander/Filk? Cruxshadows?
#11
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 10:18 pm
by Bratty
B4UTRUST wrote:Bratty wrote:Now what the average consumer would probably do is download a song their friend told them was cool to try it out and see what they think. I do this all the time. If I like them, I will buy the CD. If I don't, I won't.
My personal problem is about 3/4ths of the cds and artists I listen to on a regular basis...you can't buy in stores. I can't go to walmart and pick up their newest album. Some of them yes, i could, but rarely is this the case.
Kidney Thieves anyone? Collide? Heather Alexander/Filk? Cruxshadows?
Part of the lovliness of underground music. You have to know where to get it.
Try metropolis or other underground mail order companies. You can also catch the groups show or go directly to the websites.
But yeah, this is what I was talking about with sampling the product. Since you cannot get these guys in stores, why would you order an Apoptygma Berzerk or Collide CD without knowing WHAT THE HELL you were ordering?
And where are the companies losing a whole lot of money from people who can't afford to buy the majority of the music in the first place?
Incidentally, Cruxshadows gave a concert at Elysium for $10 admission. This upcoming Friday, Flock of Seagulls is giving one for $5, and Sisters of Mercy gives one tomorrow for $15. Groups like the Eagles who charge $100 for crappy seats can take it up the ass.